anonrerising | Eat An Potato

Do you feel like we should stop using frtools because of the drama associated with him?

No.

I'm not going to stop using it, but sadly, I will no longer be linking to it in my shop.

Mods are straight up removing the links- and breaking formats in the process. I spent WAY TOO LONG on my shop coding for mousemod to come in there like a bull in a china shop and shit all over my floor.

Mouse mod is so incompetent too. We. Her hiring just reeks of nepotism

is mouse mod actually related to one of the staff members?

I think so, yes

i personally refuse to use his tool because of how he acts

+1

its a convenient tool but i dont want to support a brat that thinks throwing a fit and going "nuh uh" to staff's requests is fine. staff didnt need to ask him to align his site with their ToS, they were incredibly generous with that warning. but, like all other dramamongers, he went to salt blogs to stir shit.

To be honest Nensec reeks of the 'I do this for my JOB, so therefore I know EVERYTHING about this subject and you OBVIOUSLY aren't as smart as you think you are' attitude that some people get.

Even if he wasn't scraping at first, he could have changed it to make people simply upload all images required (ie upload a skin and upload the dragon image) (also, I haven't been to the site, so I don't know exactly how it works) and that would have been that.

Instead he wanted to 'show the staff up' because obviously they don't know how the tool works, and what scraping is /s and get into an argument.

Then when staff didn't immediately fall overthemselves to apologize, he threw a hissy fit.

Sadly, though, you have too many people who are of the thought 'staff are big meanies who hate skinmakers'.

What immediately made me suspicious that he was always scraping is the part where he was saying 'so like a browser'? when his tool is NOT a browser. It is a third party site that pulls images from FR's site.

"It is a third party site that pulls images from FR's site."

yup, they don't want scraping bc they don't want server requests which is exactly what that is...

This is why techbros are the worst. I dont trust anyone who works in tech honestly, especially cis guys

I'm so glad I'm not the only one who thinks this. I saw him have a shitfit either on one of the salt blogs or on his own blog, I can't quite recall, and while everyone was praising him and stuff, I only thought, "isn't this a little ridiculous?" If you don't follow the ToS, you'll get banned. Why even attach your tool to your actual FR name if you didn't care about the ToS/what staff thought anyway? You're just asking to get banned at that point.

The tool is great and all but yeah, I really dislike how he's responded to staff... reacting in accordance to their ToS? Like any other company would? The ToS that you agree to follow when you make a FR account? Idk, it just feels like he thought he'd be placed above the ToS or something based on some tool he made.

I went to the tumblr and looked at the description of the tool, and skin makers already have to upload the image of the skin, so why couldn't nensec just tell people 'hey just upload the image of your dragon that you get from the dragon page or scrying workshop'.

Sure you might have people who would input dragons and try to use the wrong skins, or images that weren't dragons, but if the tool just overlays the skin over the dragon, why does it HAVE To pull from FR servers...

Also, that last line of yours is exactly what I feel. He honestly does give me vibes of 'i am so smart, I do this for a living, this measly little petsite should be GREATFUL that I am deigning to do this in the first place.'

AYRT

"so why couldn't nensec just tell people 'hey just upload the image of your dragon that you get from the dragon page or scrying workshop'."

At this point, I think it's a pride issue. From what I've seen, it's likely that Nensec is just too stubborn and full of himself to lower his head to staff, because he's above that, I guess? So of course, he's going to try to play semantics and go for any solution BESIDES the obvious one to drag himself down, and everyone who follows him/uses his tool (without paying attention to what the tool actually does) down with him.

Because casting your ego aside and *gasp* listening to staff is much worse then the alternative, which is to get unknowing people in trouble due to your own problems.

nyart - agreed, I think it's about pride. It would be so simple to change the tool to comply with the TOS

ayrt

that is exactly what I was thinking. It is all about pride.

sadly many of the people who are 'following him' are likely thinking they are 'sticking it to the man' by flouting FR's authoritarian rules, and are being rebels.

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