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Right? This does absolutely nothing to counteract those in Earth who don't buy pre-leveled dragons. Why would they? They're in it to profit.

The only thing this would impact is OOF support in battles, it wouldn't change the week-to-week of Earth easily rolling into first.

Isn't that a good thing though? The imbalance of OOF support is nerfed, individual effort and flight organisation is still balanced.

In Earth's sub-case of Issues In Dominance, OOF does not need to be nerfed (it's probably the only thing that works against them) because their "problem" is that there's nothing attracting players to Earth besides dom. Earth, ironically, actually doesn't need much individual effort/flight organisation because a lot more players are into dom at least a bit (example what I mean below), so, frankly, I'd rather congratulate the bigger flights for their organisation efforts rather than Earth who, in my view, has average - or sometimes even below average - coordination efforts and coast into being the best on their lack of aesthetics.

Example
Earth, 100 players: 80 are exalting a dragon each without looking at others = activity: 0.8 without any coordination.
Twice as big flight, 100 players: 80 players exalt a dragon without coordination, activity, scaled to Earth, is only 0.4. To match the activity level that Earth is getting passively, the same players would have to either exalt twice as more, attract more players to dom or do anything else, and everything will require more coordination (for example, have you ever tried organizing a meeting where everyone has to take active part between 10 people and between 20? Not the same thing at all).

^ And we know a large portion of Earth's exalters have nothing to do with the community / organization because of how they almost got first the week before WvE.

Targeting OOF support as the "problem" will hurt flights whose strengths lie in graphics, spreadsheets, communication, networking, or financial management. You're welcome to think these have no place in dom but I think it's kind of cool that they do in its current iteration!

SA That's the general "you" btw and not for the person I'm replying to. (Who I agree with!)

This is why I feel, and I have said this before, that a much better approach to 'fixing' dom, at least in short term (I believe that to truly fix dominance, it has to be a completely new 'game' so to speak. I don't think the way it is set up now can truly be 'fixed' or 'fair'), is to incentivize people exalting their own dragons.

Encourage people to exalt their own dragons, instead of sending off to a raffle or something like that, and it may also encourage people to get involved with their own dominance teams.

It would, hopefully, lessen the OOF support issues, but also hopefully get people who aren't interested in dominance now, interested.

Bonus: even if those players don't become interested in dominance, if they DO become interested in exalting their own dragons, they are more likely to 'contribute' to dom efforts, without needing to be a part of the team, they just need to exalt dragons.

However, even with this being done, and this is the other half of the whole 'dom issue' (that the proposals above wouldn't actually help at all), this wouldn't touch the people that change flights for dom culture. (or exalting culture).

That is the other half of why Earth is so successful, as said, because they are known as the 'dom capital' of Sornieth, and so players flock there to get in on that. However, because most people consider their aesthetic boring (sorry Earth, if it was more about minerals and gemstones, I have the feeling you would be a much larger flight, but sadly, most of it seems to be brown, brown, dark brown, oh look, more brown), people who aren't that interested in the dom benefits (but not actively contributing) aren't moving there, to inflate the numbers.

Most other flights don't have that issue. I know that many people consider water to have boring aesthetics as well (and in some ways, I agree, as there are a great many colorful fish and water plants), so it is natural that they are also one of the smaller flights. But the bigger flights, like shadow and lightning, tend to have more desired 'aesthetics', both in colors, and actual lore. This means that when they become known as 'dom flights', such as Light when I first joined, players who want the benefits, but don't want to help, are much more willing to join those flights, leading to high active numbers, but fewer active exalters.

This is why I don't think dom can be truly fixed, because how do you 'fix' the issue of flight changes?

I personally think the fix to Dom is... Remove all flight wide benefits. Let it be a king of the hill match with personal rewards for getting involved.

DA

'Addressing OOF support' doesn't inherently mean nerfing it. If the points a dragon gave were based on what element it last spent n days in, then the big flights would benefit - they're now getting earth/fire/water's dom points multiplier for the dragon instead of their own low one.

Finding a way of balancing that would be hard as hell, because boarding etc, but anything else is either a blanket solution that makes things harder for everyone or trying to affect player culture... which is a convoluted nightmare.

I might be de-anonning myself, but it makes me laugh that everyone's talking about earth's aesthetic being the reason they've lasted so much longer than other flights as the dom top dog, because when I came up with it a couple years back it was not a popular theory.

(pre-emptive edit - not saying I'm the only one that came up with it on their own, but I'd never seen it raised before I did)

ayrt

Haha idk if I'm reading your idea right but the meta if the dragon's worth was based on who owned it before the exalter would be such chaos!

Earth boarders get dragons sent to them instantly upon signing up. Fire's merc company actually gets business. OOF boarding now is super important for big flights and way less useful for small ones which means Shadow would still be screwed for IvS.

I don't think it's a "fix" but god would it be funny. I'm into it.

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