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I'm mildly concerned about IP logging, but much less so when it's not linked to any cohesive identity. I don't have an email address I've signed up with or a username and password combo I might use on another site that can be linked together with my IP here.

I'm not saying no one can conclude anything about my identity from my IP, they can and obviously the mods here do by checking IPs to deal with trolling and people replying to themselves.

The ID cards are different to me. This may just be my point of view, but I've worked in various places where you get ID copies from people, and it's treated as a big deal. Their confidentiality matters. It's still not clear to me that this is going to be respected, and no one's shown any signs of it being taken seriously beyond a later clarification that they'll be blacked out, which is not foolproof and really prone to user error (see: so many posts with screenshots here or on SMR where some names are missed).

I mean, my response would be to never join any server where I'm asked to share ID, and that's no loss to me. I'd rather talk to people I actually know and somewhat trust about dragon pussy. But you're also not going to hear from anyone who doesn't use this site because of the IP logging, are you?

But there's been no response to anons asking that if it's only the birth date that they need, why use a censored ID at all? Just ask for people's birth dates, because you're doing absolutely nothing to check if they're using a real, verified ID, which is what IDs are for.

I'm far more concerned that this has been very poorly thought out, with zero consideration beyond solving an immediate fear.

Network security admin here. Do you have any idea how often I have to repeat to people on a **daily** basis, let alone have it as my signature for when people email me because it should be common sense but isn't, "do not give out your information freely online, for any reason" because some dude like you is so terminally online that they feel it's A-OK to just give/ask for details and could jeopardize not only THEIR safety, but the safety of others at large?

Your heart is in the right place because kids shouldn't be in those spaces, but I hate to fucking say it, there's no solution to safely and securely get that sort of private data - even temporarily - that isn't expensive and unreasonable for just one person and your mod team. You clearly do not have the security savvy or bankroll to handle that information. If big companies with infrastructure and netsec staff literally paid around the clock to monitor their systems for breaches and improve on it constantly to make sure that they're as secure as possible when new breaches are invented aren't immune to getting ripped open like waterlogged tissues, what makes you think you and your DMs are safe on discord- a service with admins that literally REFUSE to handle its security and phishing problems in favour of wanting to push for JPEGs that have the value of whatever it feels like that day?

On top of that, do you understand how laughably easy it is to just photoshop an ID? I'm hearing here and there 'maybe you can just blur everything out except the DOB', but listen to me for a second- it's *still* not secure enough and at that point why ask for verification at all. You get internet sleuths all over the place who can perfectly hunt down a person's exact geolocation based off of seemingly inane geographical features like a bush trimmed a certain way. Images have metadata which can tell you a LOT about when, where (using your device's possible GPS or network tracking), and what devices created an image. That innocent little photo of an ID just became a LAND MINE that could hurt people infinitely more than help. You could hurt innocent people way more by doing this, and it's laughably easy to scrape for that metadata what with all the guides out there on how to do it on google.

By publicly asking for these images of photo IDs, you are painting a target on your account if someone's really fiending for that info. And hell, you could just get fucked up by a

Look. It fucking sucks, but there is no safe way for you - an individual - to ask for this information that might not even be real. You could even require a video chat of the person holding their ID and their discord tag and you're still accepting people on a 'trust me i'm an adult bro' basis because fake IDs are a rebellious underage drinker's best friend in real life. Unless you're physically holding that ID and can check it for all those security measures, it doesn't account for jack fuck.

You're just going to have to trust that whatever fucker clicks that button is a legitimate adult, and that everyone who doesn't click it has parents who care enough to teach their kid online integrity and monitor their activity online.

SA, apparently my brain fucked off somewhere because I can't TL;DR for my life and I skipped finishing a sentence, but you deserve to get your mindset fisted with a wall of text the size of the Burj Dubai right into the cerebrum if it means you and maybe others who think like you take security much more seriously.

*And hell, you could just get fucked up by an accidental slip of judgement and that data gets stolen on a whim.

Do some basic googling and searching, people have been tracked and seriously hurt because their IP address was leaked.

It's probably just a deterrent to minors, if someone's so dead set on it that they'd fake or steal an ID to get in then they'd do anything so nothing will be fool proof. It's easier to make up a date and type it in than to go through the EFFORT to fake or steal an ID.

I've had jobs take photocopies of my ID and by jobs I mean, like, people I'm pet sitting for, not big companies. I mean, these people are giving me a key to their house, it makes sense. This server is giving people access to an adult space with things minors shouldn't be exposed to. Idk, maybe we just have different perspectives but it makes sense to me.

But it adds risk that I don't see as justified by that deterrent factor. There are identifying details on ID that are not names, photos and addresses, even aside from the metadata issue Netsec Anon pointed out.

You're not getting a key to anyone's house here. Hotels also take ID photocopies in the US, for similar reasons, but they keep them in a safe. Chances are you're trusting someone you're working for to also keep the ID secure. Admittedly I wouldn't be comfortable with that either, but that is a matter of personal preferences.

I don't believe it's reasonable to place the same trust in someone on the internet on a less than secure platform, and especially not for them to have a Discord channel where they accept IDs. There are so many more ways for a huge range of people to access information on the internet than there are to see a specific photocopy in real life.

ALSO-

Sorineth. I know it's a word not seen as much but it still BUGS ME.

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There’s not even that much effort needed - you can Google your country/state ID, get pictures of IDs, and block out everything but the DOB. If all they’re really looking at is the DOB, then I doubt these discord mods are checking every ID they get to see if it’s just a edited one found online. The only real bit of effort is making sure you find one with a feasible birth year, and thats a minimal level of effort. To say nothing of the fact things can be photoshopped.

If a method is that easily circumvented while still carrying a not insignificant level of risk for those that do submit their actual IDs, is it actually worth it to implement over less invasive options?

Oh same. Thank you for freezing some of the moe out of hand threads so soon as well

Yeah, they reached out to me once because people were posting a lot about me on the blog, to see if I was okay with it (I didn't care), and I had barely even posted on the blog, so definitely wasn't one of the 'insiders'.

I also definitely don't really agree with all the takes they have either.

*late to the party* dude, that's literally enough - you are not the police and that's enough age verification as expected from a random citizen of any country. If you want "securely verify", then shell out the dosh for https and secure coding.

Why are ppl taking this comment so seriously loool it’s so mild by AR standards

Go take it out on Dakkoki or whoever was offending y’all first

My goodness! Daddy left you early huh?

We're going through it right now, y'all have been ferocious since I last looked last night, twice the size.

IP address: Tells me what state, and POSSIBLY what city you're in. Does not give me access to your address, birthdate, name, or photo.

Actual license: All of the above, including height, weight, hair/eye colour, and even if you're a veteran/organ donor, etc.

If it assuages your worry,

vasemod and I only use IP addresses to identify whether same-anoning is happening, or to keep tabs on problematic repeat offenders.

That's how I feel. I looked in and suddenly "how did it gain 3-4 flatview pages here"

doesnt that defeat the point of being anonymous

its creepy that you're keeping tabs on our location tbh

how else are they gonna stop one person arguing back and forth with themselves lmao

You'd rather one person be able to pretend to be 5 people to agree with themselves? There is no useful info to dox from an IP with no accounts attached.

You think minors can't Google pictures of IDs to doctor?

We don't keep tabs on your location though, that would be extra work that neither myself or Mindless wants to go through to run your IP through an IP locator.

We keep track of IPs to keep troublemakers in check and be wary of repeat offenders.
If you're that worried there's plenty VPNs for cheap or even free out there.

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