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[(Anonymous)]

ID recording has both pros and cons.

+ Easier to find where screw-ups happen since every dragon is accounted for individually
+ Less prone to cheating since everything can be individually verified
- More work
- Slower
- A pain in the ass on mobile (but tbh mobile already really sucks for recording so...)

It's up to the flight in question whether the pros outweigh the cons or vice versa. For uncontested pushes, speed may not be as important. (One could argue that getting a reputation for being slow and inefficient will hurt in future conquests, but that's a more long-term view.) Whereas if a flight has some... "inaccurate" attendants (if you've ever attended, you know the type -- the ones that overwrite constantly, input the wrong information, leave dragons hanging for hours because they forgot to update their status, or just straight up forget to record some dragons), it may be beneficial to have the individual records to mitigate those people. Most flights aren't willing to turn away attendants because of the bad PR, even if those attendants cause more harm than they help.

My guess would be that Lightning either has a lot of newer attendants they want to train and want to be able to easily verify mistakes, or that they've had accuracy troubles in recent pushes (or past pushes in general) and want to have that clearer accountability. That, or they had the dom team entirely roll over to new leadership who just grabbed a years-out-of-date spreadsheet. Either/or, really, though I think the entire dom team changing is less likely.

[(Anonymous)]

nayrt

Thanks for taking the time to make this reply. I am a fan of IDs for uncontested pushes with newer attendants so I always cringe when people inevitably complain about it everytime it appears..like..calm down. :/

[(Anonymous)]

ayrt

np.

I think honestly the reason it draws so many complaints is for two separate reasons from two groups.
1) For more experienced attendants, it really sucks to get slowed down. Many of these attendants may just not think about newbie attendants (I never did until I started talking to more dom heads and getting a broader perspective than just my own), and so especially if it's not announced that that's the reason in-flight, it can be frustrating. One of the things I was very fond of in Water(? may have been Nature instead, but I think it was Water) was that they held "training raffles" occasionally, where experienced attendants were encouraged to let newbies take the helm and get practice, and there was a lot more guidance during those weeks in general.
2) For people sending to the raffles, new attendants + slower recording methods is a recipe for sometimes running into VERY slow delays, like the anon above who had sent a singular dragon and was (is?) waiting for over an hour. When ID recording is visible, that gives an easy outlet for finger-pointing, much easier than deducting whether someone's new to attending or not.

[(Anonymous)]

Was formerly in Lightning. They don't exactly get a lot of active volunteers to attend, so a lot of the time it's dependent entirely on newer users or users who are new to dom.

I left Lightning a year or so ago and I still feel bad every time I see people complaining about how slow/etc. the attendants are. Poor guys. I wonder if DI is still doing 99% of the workload for the dom team?

[(Anonymous)]

Lightning dom head here. DI does a HUGE amount but we've had more people step up lately. Avariea in particular is an ENORMOUS help.

We rely almost entirely on newer users. Attendants are typically new, and we get VERY few volunteers for... anything. Sorry we don't have a lot of attendants. :( We're doing what we can.

[(Anonymous)]

This is why I wish there wasn't a flight change cooldown. I'd love to swap to Lightning for the week, help out with attending, then swap back. But I don't want to stay for 6 months. :(

Given that it already costs >1kg to swap, it would be nice if it wasn't time-gated. :\

[(Anonymous)]

no kidding lmao

[(Anonymous)]

-Ava here and I will say that the newer sparks do take some time to get the hang of recording bonuses correctly. Thats why we push ID recording. Its the safest way to insure that everyone gets the proper number of tickets and it is an easy quick way to check a discrepancy. Trust me when I get hit with 200-300 dragons at once I do wish I didn't have to ID record but with how many newbies we get every year its hard to put up the ID recording safely.

[(Anonymous)]

AYRT

Best of luck to all of you guys! Sorry if it sounded like I was criticizing the other dom heads, I just always felt like DI was overworking herself ^^;

[(Anonymous)]

I used to not think about ID recording/just trust the receivers to be on top of the ball, but in a recent raffle I ran into someone who mis-input like every single dragon I sent them (Wrong levels, daily bonuses all over the place). Makes me thankful that the AH has such a good record of dragons sent, although Idk if you’d run out of AH history pages during a raffle if you’re a heavy power leveler.

[(Anonymous)]

"Idk if you’d run out of AH history pages during a raffle if you’re a heavy power leveler."

No such thing as far as I can tell. I've accepted ~10k dragons before and while it was a pain to sort through that many pages, none of them expired until the 2-week expiration period.

[(Anonymous)]

Oh that’s a good it of information to know, thank you!