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they were called out for trying to make profit off of the raffle by the flight members. they got pissy with the flight and you could tell from every text they sent. They got upset they were 'forced' to up the prices of the spreadsheet when Earth was ahead of us for most of the day with just casual exalting. A bunch of embers cleared out pre-leveled fodder on the AH too to try and push us over the top. None of the flight was pinged for the raffle thread IF, people were confused in the discords that the push was this week because we got no pings prior except for a raffle attendant request and artist request.

the whole thing has been frustrating because embers are using NEW and PERSONAL funds to buy leveled fodder and not bank funds because those 'need to be saved for a conquest'.

... I have never heard of refusing to use bank funds for something like this when there is no planned battle coming soon. This is what they are for

DA okay yeah no bank funds are bank funds because they fund dom programs, and that includes whenever you have an out of flight raffle or public buy. absolutely nobody should be using their own personal funds for that!! you can, of course, that's your choice. but it's much easier to use the bank funds. the dom bank would ideally want you to be using it.

That's so sketchy, especially since it doesn't seem like Fire has a conquest planned? (Next battle is a profit push for Halloween and then nothing for the rest of the year according to dom watch.) Why are they acting like the bank doesn't belong to the entire flight?

Because it doesn't belong to the entire flight, it belongs to them. I'm leaving fire when I can save up enough gems. I hate it here. There are players who talk in the discord a lot more than I do who tried to speak up earlier and they were shut down. I barely talk and just sit there and wait for dom efforts? I was so scared to speak up meanwhile the people who did just took the heat alone and I feel so bad. I'm sorry I don't like conflict! I wish I could speak up.

Good luck in whatever flight you pick. I mean, you have a decent idea if you follow here which flights are to be avoided.

https://docs.google.com/forms/d/e/1FAIpQLScTN1lM1BwuISmnptffrkYthSjtZA9zT3aP1PlqbXMfcWmagA/viewform?usp=sf_link Throw your username or ID# on that form and I'll PM you the funds for a flight change. I've been stuck in flights I didn't enjoy before and I don't wish that on anyone.

You're much smarter than I am. I hadn't even considered that option for helping. I hope they take you up on it to get out faster.

I was lucky and fell into a flight that was everything I could want. I can't imagine being trapped in a place that shitty.

DA

I just want to say this really touched my heart. This is such a smart way to ensure they don't oust themselves too. Thank you for offering to help this anon ember.

I've been in Fire for a little over 7 years now, unsure when I started to participate in Dom. I'm always to help out the AA team with any dom events because I just love doing dom stuff and creating spreadsheets or the like. I'm very tempted to take a vacation, what I'm calling it because I know I'll get very homesick, but I'm just not sure where to go. Earth seems the logical choice since I wanna be big into dom, but I also just really want to help out with events. Like, I've always wanted to host an event or join the AA, because of how much I love dom and creating things for it or participating.
But leaving is absolutley terrifying, and even thinking about it gives me anxiety. A pit in my stomach. The flight has become your home, and you've been there ever since you joined. I really don't know what to do, but it sounds like Fire is crumbling without me even noticing.

Come to Water! you won't regret it - the dom team is super welcoming of people wanting to do events. that's why I joined originally and I'm really pleased. we also do tonsssss of stuff, like we have a few conquest pushes planned for the rest of the year.

+1 to recommending Water.

I haven't been in Water in a few years (since I've mostly been afk on the site), but of the flights I was in, it had easily the best dom scene -- and enough hands and structuring to make sure that even with dom head turnover they'd still be set up for years to come. The couple friends I still have there still recommend it, so I'd say it's a safe bet.

Another droplet here. If you like events and helping, water is good for that, and anyone can get involved. And even if it's just a vacation, we don't mind. While you're in water, you're one of us. Hell, some of our vacationers never leave.

And our Dom bank is actually willing to use our funds for things and not hoard/hide it.

I had originally thought about Wind for a vacation - just really enjoy their whole vibe. But I could try out Water! Sounds like a good vacation spot. Unsure when I'd be able to take the vacation, but might try.

if you do wind, try to line up your vacation with the IF competition, it looks super fun

I'm not super involved with dom, but Light seems to be pretty friendly and on the ball with it, even if we're not the unstoppable powerhouse of a few years back.

I'm honestly sure Light is very lovely to be in, but that competitive streak in me refuses to allow me to even vacation there haha

DA
ok, I was the one to mention their hateboner for Shadow, and I will admit that I am very biased by being in Shadow, but their hateboner feels to me like classic bully situation - person has bad home life and feels not in control, person tries to reclaim good feelings by bullying others. Only in this case, Fire's dom have troubles, they find convenient targets to show how, actually, there are no problems, our dom is great, look, we won a battle :)
So I think that if they are already refusing to spend treasure on a fest push which is a basic flight expense that can be planned literal years in advance, then we in Shadow should assume that one of our winter pushes will randomly become a battle (again) because Fire has always pushed that week or whatever excuse they manufacture again. Possibly other flights on the less active side should be wary too.

what the fuck? dipping into dom funds for your literal biggest event of the year is a no brainer. its a celebration of your flight and also a great opportunity to flex/show off your community when all eyes are on you. them not wanting to spend anything on that is so baffling and as an OOFer i have 0 confidence in fire's ability to get their shit together if they actually want to conquest.

to be contrary, why should flights spend so much money on festival raffles when they’re pretty much guaranteed Dom during their festival anyway?

I know my flight does it because we're proud of our community. Also, it attracts players moving flights.

This stunt is driving away members of the flight, making people not want to join, and if fire plans a battle, I'll be supporting the other side.

Also... Considering the board right now, if I were fire, I would be sweating. The fact the Earth is still ahead of beastclans says a fair bit about exalt totals. They aren't guaranteed a win if they can't stay ahead of Earth's profit exalters that they didn't offer enough incentive to send dragons their way.

If a flight loses to Earth by accident, this is the perfect storm of things to make it happen.

earth won't beat them; the dom team is v aware of their reputation and will figure something out if earth is in danger of beating fire, like how they sent dragons to ice and plague before WvE to avoid going into the battle with fatigue.

many reasons, including it being a massive opportunity for flight pride, showing off your flights wealth, and giving back to the community.

think of it like a parade. if youre an organization that's going to have a parade, that you've known about all year, and you have a million dollar budget for... would you want to have it be people lazily walking through just because you're scheduled for a parade and want to pocket the $$$? or would you want to actually use your budget for big floats, musical performances, candy and necklaces to toss out, and similar excitement?

and which one gets the crowd excited? which one makes the crowd want to support or otherwise care about you?

All of that, but also, like, stepping back and not going for other flight's fests is, at the end of the day, not mandatory. Its a pretty organic development of a social tradition.

Its a GOOD tradition that is really cute and says good things for the generosity of the community in general, i think, and i love that we as a community decided to do it, but ultimately its somewhere between a social contract and a courtesy, and at the and of the day people like helping, but they DON'T like feeling taken advantage of, so seeing AA put in a fuckin' barrel bottom scraping show feels.... Eh. It's a bad scene.

ayrt

its really interesting how in the last month there was discussion on SMR about festival dom stealing. the general opinion was that it would be fucked up for another flight to maliciously try to steal someones festival.

it says a lot about FR's community that nobody even considered that a dom team would try to take advantage of that festival courtesy.

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