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Literal governments have tried this, and come up with the same concerns that are being expressed here.

https://www.aph.gov.au/Parliamentary_Business/Committees/House/Social_Policy_and_Legal_Affairs/Onlineageverification/Report/section?id=committees%2Freportrep%2F024436%2F72614
https://www.theguardian.com/culture/2019/oct/16/uk-drops-plans-for-online-pornography-age-verification-system
https://onlinelibrary.wiley.com/doi/10.1002/poi3.250

There isn't any benefit to requiring IDs that's not counterbalanced by the privacy concerns, and no one's created a workable system to verify age without them really. Most attempts at this kind of legislation have failed.

You as random individuals are not responsible for ID-based age verification like this. Can't you have done a quick Google on the topic before you tried this? It's really clear you didn't do any due diligence.

SA, by "websites" I mean nsfw websites... which seems like the very last thing you should give your info to, anyways.

dakkokki you reblogged a photoshopped picture of mr rogers i don't think you're a good judge for what is and isn't a fake picture

you're pretty dumb if you think people can't easily find fake IDs online to edit and then edit it in to an existing picture

do you think that lighting effects are just beyond the technology of photoshop out something

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1) IDs vary massively depending on type and the location of the issuing body, and this is a global Internet. There are IDs that are laminated bits of paper, or even on paper cards, that are still valid as a form of identification.
2) Fake IDs are readily available and used all the time, in ways that have nothing to do with one individual using Photoshop for your site.

You're missing the point and it's hard to tell if you're just that slow or you just refuse to accept that your methods are flawed and unsafe.

The point of people explaining how easy it is to fake a picture of their idea is to show you that even your method is not going to keep minors out of your 18+ space. You seem so certain that this is the only way possible to keep only adults in, but it's not and people are trying to show you why.

You're way too stubborn and it's scary that people actually send you their personal information. You insinuate that people don't have to send you their uncensored ID, but not that you don't allow them to. Meaning people who are maybe young (18 year olds still make stupid decisions) or don't understand how unsafe it, probably have sent you a picture of their uncensored ID.

Wouldn't it be easier to just ask people for another active online account where they display their age or an age range?

As someone who used to be a minor that ABSOLUTELY would have gone through that effort, as well as many other of the people I was friends with, it's really not that wild of an prediction.

This whole thing's a mess, but I think it's even funnier how Dakkokki is just digging their heels in and not proposing alternate methods. Welcome to the AR thread, Dakkokki. You really want those ID's, huh?

I’m sorry what? Idk what you are referring to in terms of reblogging a mr rogers id, last thing I weblogged was some goofy Tik Tok video that had me cackling for a good ten minutes?

And I know they’re not but you have to spend a lot of time and effort to fake it in photoshop. Like the photo edits I do for my photography take hours and that’s for just tiny details and fixes

I’ll say it again, I’m open to other ideas and methods that will securely verify someone’s age, not just have them click a button like “yup I’m 18 just believe me bro”

I don’t WANT uncensored IDs, please don’t send them uncensored. I don’t want to know your address or anything, nothing of that sort, I use want to make sure you’re over 18, nothing more and nothing less.

Again, photoshopped IDs are pretty easy to spot.

Then just say that? Just drop the ID notion, admit it's a bad idea?

This whole thing is because you had an awful idea for verification. I agree that "yup I'm just 18" is a weak defense against minors, but there's basically nothing you can do. Collecting personal identifiers as a random discord mod is the worst alternative.

it is funny and also interesting that you start ignoring posts that continue to point out problems and also more accurate things about what you're doing. is it because you don't have a good response that isn't copying pasting the same thing over and over again? :( i remember you did this when you thought that your cross site trades were not against the rules too.

And people are trying to explain to you that there aren't currently safe, secure methods of doing that, and that it's a general internet problem, not one that's your personal responsibility to solve.

Flight Rising is legally required to keep children under 13 from using its service. Do you know how the site does that? By asking them to declare they're over 13. Anyone who's proven to be under 13 is banned, but there isn't verification.

I feel like you're saying the concern among your users is that minors will trick them, which is also kinda worrying to me, in that this becomes not about protecting the underage, but providing a sense of security theatre.

Because kids aren't known for having a lot of free time to waste or anything.

Then prove to me that you're qualified to spot them, or have at least had the minimal training someone working at a bar would get.

https://captain-chompers.tumblr.com/post/672229598748180480
https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/factcheck/2021/03/19/fact-check-image-claiming-show-steve-irwin-mr-rogers-composite/4763434001/
"Image is a composite"

convenient that you ignore another poster talking about how not all IDs are laminate. also ignoring that it's still very simple to shop these things. the fact that it's possible at all means that it's still possible. you will be lied to. this is not the way. i can't say anything else but that you're just too dumb and too ignorant of the subject of photoshop and IDs to actually have a justifiable and defendable point

try harder

Then why is showing a censored ID with only the date of birth something you called the BARE MINIMUM? Shit's not adding up my guy! Keep your story straight or stop lying.

NAYRT

Not only that, but so much data security is leaked by laxness and failed controls, and only then gets into the hands of malicious individuals. Discord has already had at least one leak.

So I take a picture in dim lighting. Or dim enough so you can't see any glare on the coating.

Or, my ID is currently printed on paper and it IS official, because it's temporary and I'm waiting for an updated ID to be shipped in.

Or, I add an overlay in photoshop, but if I zoom in enough or the quality's too shitty you'll never notice it. I say, "I don't have a higher resolution camera to take a picture with, I hope this is good enough."

Or, I laminate it, or put a sheet of plastic over it.

Or, I...

You aren't qualified to spot them. If someone REALLY wants in, they're going to make it past you.

I'm literally a photographer that works with photoshop constantly? I'm pretty sure I can point out a photoshopped ID

It's poor wording on my end, I'm not the best with words I will admit.

Not only that, but everyone legitimately offering IDs is giving them to someone who isn't qualified in disposing of that data, or aware of the proper procedures required to handle it either.

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