Nope. I very rarely encounter people who block me, and I've never seen my username come up in reselling contexts. (I admit I also don't seek out said contexts, but the only drama I've ever seen about myself was unrelated to skins and accents at all and also years ago since I'm fairly quiet on-site.)
It's more that I find it a bit strange and inconsistent that the community, over time, has very much adopted the "once out of your lair, you have no control" perspective on dragons, but reselling is still very vilified when it's 100% fixable by the artist. When it's brought up, very few people reply with "just print more?" like they do with "just name your fodder before you sell it?"
I find that inconsistency a little baffling, and hoped to bring some attention to it and hopefully stop having to deal with periodic artist PMs when it really is solvable on their end by just undercutting me.
I'm not mad in any respect (at least, not in the 'angry' sense, since there's an argument to be made that we're all a little bit mad for playing on FR with the way the admins treat the site). Frankly, I don't give a shit whether or not my accents sell -- I'm happy to keep just spam relisting for the next couple of years since the AH supports that pretty easily. ironically it's more effort to try and individually tailor prices on a UMA-by-UMA basis, and drop those to match artist prices than it is to just keep relisting at a generic price above purchase price for months.
I agree with the below anon- once an accent is approved, an auto reprint with payment would help with this a great deal.
I still disagree though, that resellers do make a huge profit off artists by taking advantage of limited runs or artists taking breaks, etc, and folks who buy just to resell are assholes.
No worries! If I was salt-averse, I wouldn't be on ARR. :p
In the situation of people who take advantage of limited runs, yes, I agree that's a problem, but I'm more of the opinion that limited runs just shouldn't exist. They're designed to take advantage of buyer FOMO (or in the cases of some really savvy artists who do large-printing-limited-runs, to take advantage of resellers as well), and it just... isn't really necessary? To some extent it makes sense because of the effort of maintaining a ping list, but it's not much work at all to maintain reprints by just relisting a copy or two on the AH and reprinting/relisting when they sell. (I've done that myself at times, though I certainly can't claim to have the same volume as the popular/big-name artists.)
As far as artists taking breaks though -- I don't agree that that's a problem. If an artist goes on hiatus/quits the site, that's a permanently unavailable accent except for the resellers (whether that's career resellers or people like me who just get tired of an accent/offload extras they realized they're never gonna use). Resellers actually help the market in that case -- there's at least one of my favourite dragons where I wouldn't have the accent at all if not for resellers because the artist quit years before I found out the accent existed. It is, again, a win-win -- I got the accent I wanted, and the reseller got the profit they wanted, and there isn't even an artist around to "lose" a sale since they weren't on the site any longer anyway. (And again harping back on "relisting solves reselling," if they HAD been on the site, they could've pretty easily relisted their acccents and I'd have bought their lower-priced one instead.)
You have to take into account the fact that dragons on the site are made to be resold, traded and exalted hence the official 'once it leaves your lair' rule since that's the whole point of the game. Skins however are purely player made and managed, that's mostly why it's seen as an asshole move to resell them.
I'm also on team I-fucking-hate-limited-shit but if you are an artist with like 50+ skins in your gallery then good luck managing all that and always keeping those available so that the dirty little resellers can't get a gem off it. If we had an easier way to manage skins that didn't involve having to submit it and wait an eternity for a reprint or run to fill plus managing a whole ass thread, then that'd be great but here we are, still begging staff for auto reprints and possible 'shops'
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(Anonymous) 2021-04-05 10:29 pm (UTC)(link)Nope. I very rarely encounter people who block me, and I've never seen my username come up in reselling contexts. (I admit I also don't seek out said contexts, but the only drama I've ever seen about myself was unrelated to skins and accents at all and also years ago since I'm fairly quiet on-site.)
It's more that I find it a bit strange and inconsistent that the community, over time, has very much adopted the "once out of your lair, you have no control" perspective on dragons, but reselling is still very vilified when it's 100% fixable by the artist. When it's brought up, very few people reply with "just print more?" like they do with "just name your fodder before you sell it?"
I find that inconsistency a little baffling, and hoped to bring some attention to it
and hopefully stop having to deal with periodic artist PMs when it really is solvable on their end by just undercutting me.I'm not mad in any respect (at least, not in the 'angry' sense, since there's an argument to be made that we're all a little bit mad for playing on FR with the way the admins treat the site). Frankly, I don't give a shit whether or not my accents sell -- I'm happy to keep just spam relisting for the next couple of years since the AH supports that pretty easily.
ironically it's more effort to try and individually tailor prices on a UMA-by-UMA basis, and drop those to match artist prices than it is to just keep relisting at a generic price above purchase price for months.no subject
(Anonymous) 2021-04-05 10:47 pm (UTC)(link)Sorry about the salt, the rant came off that way.
I agree with the below anon- once an accent is approved, an auto reprint with payment would help with this a great deal.
I still disagree though, that resellers do make a huge profit off artists by taking advantage of limited runs or artists taking breaks, etc, and folks who buy just to resell are assholes.
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(Anonymous) 2021-04-05 11:09 pm (UTC)(link)No worries! If I was salt-averse, I wouldn't be on ARR. :p
In the situation of people who take advantage of limited runs, yes, I agree that's a problem, but I'm more of the opinion that limited runs just shouldn't exist. They're designed to take advantage of buyer FOMO (or in the cases of some really savvy artists who do large-printing-limited-runs, to take advantage of resellers as well), and it just... isn't really necessary? To some extent it makes sense because of the effort of maintaining a ping list, but it's not much work at all to maintain reprints by just relisting a copy or two on the AH and reprinting/relisting when they sell. (I've done that myself at times, though I certainly can't claim to have the same volume as the popular/big-name artists.)
As far as artists taking breaks though -- I don't agree that that's a problem. If an artist goes on hiatus/quits the site, that's a permanently unavailable accent except for the resellers (whether that's career resellers or people like me who just get tired of an accent/offload extras they realized they're never gonna use). Resellers actually help the market in that case -- there's at least one of my favourite dragons where I wouldn't have the accent at all if not for resellers because the artist quit years before I found out the accent existed. It is, again, a win-win -- I got the accent I wanted, and the reseller got the profit they wanted, and there isn't even an artist around to "lose" a sale since they weren't on the site any longer anyway. (And again harping back on "relisting solves reselling," if they HAD been on the site, they could've pretty easily relisted their acccents and I'd have bought their lower-priced one instead.)
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(Anonymous) 2021-04-06 02:19 am (UTC)(link)I'm also on team I-fucking-hate-limited-shit but if you are an artist with like 50+ skins in your gallery then good luck managing all that and always keeping those available so that the dirty little resellers can't get a gem off it. If we had an easier way to manage skins that didn't involve having to submit it and wait an eternity for a reprint or run to fill plus managing a whole ass thread, then that'd be great but here we are, still begging staff for auto reprints and possible 'shops'