https://www1.flightrising.com/forums/frd/2993548/11#post_47073940 Absolutely stunning salt from Aequorin's "open the bag" thread
"I’m here to complain about the lanyards which I assume everyone is doing bc seriously that is ABSOLUTELY uncool. there is nothing fun about getting to open your bag and realizing oops, you picked the wrong one! Your item is 1. not unique 2. barely noticeable 3. distinctly less impactful than the other two! It honestly feels like you’re mocking me, or that April Fools was intended to be a gachapon this year instead of a random item fun time.
I don’t know what I want, staff. I don’t know whether I want the lanyards updated, removed...I really don’t know. But at the current time it really feels like you made something that you knew was going to be worthless compared to the others, and you just...put it out anyway. Because you wanted to tell people that if they have bad luck they should just deal? Because some people arbitrarily should get rewards, and not others? Great. Fantastic. If I wanted that I would’ve played something like Genshin Impact.
I’m extremely put off by this. Thanks for making this game fun for everyone"
full bonus points for aequorin's "thanks! eat shit :)" response
I'm getting flashbacks to the ancient old himalaya salt we had when underbelly was released, when people were pissed the gene didn't cover enough of the dragons body ("but tertiary says ALL over the body not just the belly!!") or when the first arcane fest item was released (the scroll around the neck) and people were pissed it wasn't as big as the other items before it, because the scroll is just one piece, but the fire one was hammer + glasses + gloves and the light one was four pieces of jewerly
They also posted here: https://www1.flightrising.com/forums/frd/2993665/3#post_47073931
To all the people saying “the other prices will come down with time” that is absolutely not true. Flight Rising is a laissez-faire market, which means it’s dictated entirely by supply and demand; demand for the plush is high, demand for the lanyard is low. This will never change, because the lanyard is a bad item. The plush is completely unique, as is the mascot head, while the lanyard is small and insignificant, doesn’t make an impression, and is barely worth that 80 gems, even if that was its gem marketplace price.
If you’ve ever been to a con, you know what grab bags are actually like. lanyards are something that’s hapharzardly thrown into the bag at last minute as a bonus to your other gifts, along with the occasional pair of socks or small print. NO ONE gives out bags with Just lanyards in them. it’s not done.
Then the real world value of these items; a lanyard will run you MAYBE 5 dollars, a plush is more like 20-30, mascot head more like 35-40.
No matter how you look at it, it’s not fair in ANY way.
everyone join me in admonishing this because this is absolutely not acceptable
The comparison to real world con items just has me on the floor lmaoooooooooooo
This user is so hilariously over the top and dramatic lol.
Give it half a year, if not sooner, and the plushie and head will be like 50g. They come out of all the chests at the very lowest rarity, and the novelty is going to wear off because they're fun and cute and hyped up right now, but not as broadly applicable as, say, the light halo is.
This is like posting a bad review of McDonalds because your brother got a cooler toy in his kid's meal than you.
For me it's the way they misunderstood what people mean about the pricing. "The prices will come down" is not remotely the same thing as "all the items will end up at the same price." And then they cite supply and demand, not realizing that's exactly why people are saying the price will go down: the supply will increase when people open chests and get more.
I get their frustration at having accidentally picked the "worst" option, but watching them try to justify taking it out on the admins is hilarious.
In most (if not every) previous year, the contents of the containers (I'm just calling them boxes from now on in the post even if the containers vary) have been dictated by the colour of the box, without hugely significant contents variety. The community has been "trained" to pick their favourite colour of box, because that's the colour of scarf or familiar or cardboard mask or whatever else that they'll get. There are years of precedent for that, that all of the items will be (relatively) even in value and it's just a matter of picking the colour you like. There's a sliiight exception in the paper masks, but even then, it was something the community "cracked" the code on early because the number of boxes was equal to the number of breeds, so while you didn't know what you were getting exactly, there was a strong possibility it was breed-related and you could tailor what you wanted that way.
But this year, the contents aren't remotely based on the colours of the bags, and the admins gave no notice that it was going to be that way (At least to my knowledge, correct me if I'm wrong.), nor were the item descriptions or quantity remotely significant in regards to a part of the site. So users picked their favourite colours of bag, and then the values differed GREATLY based on contents (which was a very forseeable circumstance -- companion items like the plushes are among the most popular items on the entire site, while the lanyards are pretty blatantly not going to have wide appeal and be more niche, affecting the value). So yeah, it's a forseeable case of expectation and reality not lining up based on what the admins have trained us to expect from marva boxes.
I think the plushies vs lanyards vs masks thing could easily have been workable if the admins had just posted a quick admin notice saying, "Hey, we decided to try something new this year and go with themed bags not based on colours!" But as usual, the admins can't communicate their way out of a cardboard marva box, and so instead, there's users that are disappointed with their items when that could have been very easily mitigated.
why would this need to be communicated? you get one freebie, you can get the others through trade or gameplay, it is not a high-value item and prices are spiked right now on account of novelty
blaming this on the admins feels like it's done in bad faith. so they didn't color-code items that are hard to color code--that's not a failure to communicate.
These April Fool’s events have always been a surprise in every way, why in god’s name would they have needed to have given us a warning that the items will be varying this year?? And why does no one seem to remember that we’ve had varying items in the past (Phoenix and buttersnake)
I’m just hoping the admin don’t get discouraged by this whining cuz it’s honestly kind of nice having a change of pace, not just a million recolors of the same apparel item.
their comments in this thread and others confuse me so much. do they genuinely think that FR staff intentionally adds things that people dislike? they're making content for a game that has 11 distinct aesthetics/attitudes, and a playerbase that's even more diverse. it's entirely against their self-interest to make things that upset players, do... do these users really think that FR staff is paying their artists and coders to add content just to get people to quit?
if staff genuinely wants people to leave, why would they keep paying for servers and employees. lol.
jesus rollerskating christ the FR userbase has to be the whiniest i have ever witnessed in an online pet game, you got one item free and the others are NOT retried so you have FOREVER time to get them, within a year they probably won't cost more than the other past aprils fools items
i just cant, they should just made the bags cycle forever and not open that would have been funny as shit
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(Anonymous) 2021-04-05 07:09 pm (UTC)(link)Absolutely stunning salt from Aequorin's "open the bag" thread
"I’m here to complain about the lanyards which I assume everyone is doing bc seriously that is ABSOLUTELY uncool. there is nothing fun about getting to open your bag and realizing oops, you picked the wrong one! Your item is 1. not unique 2. barely noticeable 3. distinctly less impactful than the other two! It honestly feels like you’re mocking me, or that April Fools was intended to be a gachapon this year instead of a random item fun time.
I don’t know what I want, staff. I don’t know whether I want the lanyards updated, removed...I really don’t know. But at the current time it really feels like you made something that you knew was going to be worthless compared to the others, and you just...put it out anyway. Because you wanted to tell people that if they have bad luck they should just deal? Because some people arbitrarily should get rewards, and not others? Great. Fantastic. If I wanted that I would’ve played something like Genshin Impact.
I’m extremely put off by this. Thanks for making this game fun for everyone"
full bonus points for aequorin's "thanks! eat shit :)" response
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(Anonymous) 2021-04-05 07:22 pm (UTC)(link)or when the first arcane fest item was released (the scroll around the neck) and people were pissed it wasn't as big as the other items before it, because the scroll is just one piece, but the fire one was hammer + glasses + gloves and the light one was four pieces of jewerly
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(Anonymous) 2021-04-05 07:29 pm (UTC)(link)Yes, the lanyard is a little underwhelming... But you aren't locked out from the others. You'll get em in a chest or off the AH eventually.
It's the biggest difference between the pieces to date for a holiday, but it's fine.
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(Anonymous) 2021-04-05 08:00 pm (UTC)(link)To all the people saying “the other prices will come down with time” that is absolutely not true. Flight Rising is a laissez-faire market, which means it’s dictated entirely by supply and demand; demand for the plush is high, demand for the lanyard is low. This will never change, because the lanyard is a bad item. The plush is completely unique, as is the mascot head, while the lanyard is small and insignificant, doesn’t make an impression, and is barely worth that 80 gems, even if that was its gem marketplace price.
If you’ve ever been to a con, you know what grab bags are actually like. lanyards are something that’s hapharzardly thrown into the bag at last minute as a bonus to your other gifts, along with the occasional pair of socks or small print. NO ONE gives out bags with Just lanyards in them. it’s not done.
Then the real world value of these items; a lanyard will run you MAYBE 5 dollars, a plush is more like 20-30, mascot head more like 35-40.
No matter how you look at it, it’s not fair in ANY way.
everyone join me in admonishing this because this is absolutely not acceptable
The comparison to real world con items just has me on the floor lmaoooooooooooo
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(Anonymous) 2021-04-05 08:32 pm (UTC)(link)Give it half a year, if not sooner, and the plushie and head will be like 50g. They come out of all the chests at the very lowest rarity, and the novelty is going to wear off because they're fun and cute and hyped up right now, but not as broadly applicable as, say, the light halo is.
This is like posting a bad review of McDonalds because your brother got a cooler toy in his kid's meal than you.
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(Anonymous) 2021-04-05 10:56 pm (UTC)(link)I get their frustration at having accidentally picked the "worst" option, but watching them try to justify taking it out on the admins is hilarious.
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(Anonymous) 2021-04-05 10:21 pm (UTC)(link)In most (if not every) previous year, the contents of the containers (I'm just calling them boxes from now on in the post even if the containers vary) have been dictated by the colour of the box, without hugely significant contents variety. The community has been "trained" to pick their favourite colour of box, because that's the colour of scarf or familiar or cardboard mask or whatever else that they'll get. There are years of precedent for that, that all of the items will be (relatively) even in value and it's just a matter of picking the colour you like. There's a sliiight exception in the paper masks, but even then, it was something the community "cracked" the code on early because the number of boxes was equal to the number of breeds, so while you didn't know what you were getting exactly, there was a strong possibility it was breed-related and you could tailor what you wanted that way.
But this year, the contents aren't remotely based on the colours of the bags, and the admins gave no notice that it was going to be that way (At least to my knowledge, correct me if I'm wrong.), nor were the item descriptions or quantity remotely significant in regards to a part of the site. So users picked their favourite colours of bag, and then the values differed GREATLY based on contents (which was a very forseeable circumstance -- companion items like the plushes are among the most popular items on the entire site, while the lanyards are pretty blatantly not going to have wide appeal and be more niche, affecting the value). So yeah, it's a forseeable case of expectation and reality not lining up based on what the admins have trained us to expect from marva boxes.
I think the plushies vs lanyards vs masks thing could easily have been workable if the admins had just posted a quick admin notice saying, "Hey, we decided to try something new this year and go with themed bags not based on colours!" But as usual, the admins can't communicate their way out of a
cardboardmarva box, and so instead, there's users that are disappointed with their items when that could have been very easily mitigated.no subject
(Anonymous) 2021-04-05 10:44 pm (UTC)(link)blaming this on the admins feels like it's done in bad faith. so they didn't color-code items that are hard to color code--that's not a failure to communicate.
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(Anonymous) 2021-04-08 11:42 am (UTC)(link)These April Fool’s events have always been a surprise in every way, why in god’s name would they have needed to have given us a warning that the items will be varying this year?? And why does no one seem to remember that we’ve had varying items in the past (Phoenix and buttersnake)
I’m just hoping the admin don’t get discouraged by this whining cuz it’s honestly kind of nice having a change of pace, not just a million recolors of the same apparel item.
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(Anonymous) 2021-04-05 11:13 pm (UTC)(link)if staff genuinely wants people to leave, why would they keep paying for servers and employees. lol.
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(Anonymous) 2021-04-05 11:30 pm (UTC)(link)i just cant, they should just made the bags cycle forever and not open that would have been funny as shit
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(Anonymous) 2021-04-06 06:54 am (UTC)(link)lol
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(Anonymous) 2021-04-06 05:57 pm (UTC)(link)no subject
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(Anonymous) 2021-04-06 06:10 pm (UTC)(link)i have only been following this drama in here and haven't checked the items in fr itself, i thought people were sad because it would be more money