How often are massive discord and flight-exclusive logs leaked like this?
I mean, I'm not mad I'm on there a few times, I thought it was funny, but I get why others are frustrated that they're on there.
Such is the life of Flight Rising! Someone or some flight has to be the villain of the week, and this week it's Fire. I was one of the people frustrated with dom on those logs and I want change for Fire dom but like I don't see what good it does for other flights to see it all.
Only once in a while, and it's usually not done lightly.
Last big discord leak I remember was Rowan trying to stir shit up with water Dom.
How does it help? Your leads were happy pushing it under the rug for all this time. Public embarrassment can get results where normal channels don't. It's a last resort of desperation.
Fair enough, it does feel like there is going to be change due to this whole drama, but that was already getting pushed with the thread in FRD and with the censored logs, as well as the disastrous intro to FF. Posting the literal suggestion thread on how to improve the flight as well as uncensored messages from months ago was a bit much imo.
Feels like Fire's IF business is just getting aired out solely so it can be laughed at by others by this point, rather than for a genuine push for change or something. And again, I was one of the users criticizing Fire dom and I genuinely do want change, but I think right now everything that can be said has been said (unless some new terrible thing comes up haha), and anything else is just arguing for the sake of arguing and getting mad.
Definitely agree that there are likely going to be changes. I'm frustrated with Fire's Dom but I think they need a break after FF. Things will cool down and likely take place behind the scenes once more. If things get worse, some players might end up posting here again. For the most part, however, I think change will be handled in-flight.
I personally hope that things will change for the better. They might! I'm very hopeful for a good outcome from all of this.
I wish you luck, and as someone who's seen many of these things happen over the years from various sites and whatnot, I have advice for you and your flight:
Stop. Leave this alone, go do something about your very real problems. The energy you and yours use to fight and argue is wasted here. The damage is done. There's a number of your folks that will be held accountable for things they shouldn't have said, even in "private". Just move on, let the peanut gallery chatter.
Fix your shit and stop fanning the flames on an anonymous drama comm.
..... but those screens only proved that people have been voicing complaints and trying to get meaningful change, and they also confirmed that toxicity and dom lead indifference have been actively responsible for the lack of improvement. it truly looks like there was no other option to instigate a meaningful change other than putting these folks in the hot seat.
it sucks that it had to happen in such an embarrassing way, and i genuinely feel for embers who feel upset. i certainly felt mega shitty when lightning dom was torn to shreds last summer, cause it's something i've been participating in for a few years. if the drama blogs are causing you distress i recommend blocking or otherwise avoiding them, this will blow over in time when the fire leads listen.
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(Anonymous) 2022-08-24 02:40 pm (UTC)(link)I mean, I'm not mad I'm on there a few times, I thought it was funny, but I get why others are frustrated that they're on there.
Such is the life of Flight Rising! Someone or some flight has to be the villain of the week, and this week it's Fire. I was one of the people frustrated with dom on those logs and I want change for Fire dom but like I don't see what good it does for other flights to see it all.
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(Anonymous) 2022-08-24 03:01 pm (UTC)(link)Last big discord leak I remember was Rowan trying to stir shit up with water Dom.
How does it help? Your leads were happy pushing it under the rug for all this time. Public embarrassment can get results where normal channels don't. It's a last resort of desperation.
Re: +1
(Anonymous) 2022-08-24 04:20 pm (UTC)(link)Feels like Fire's IF business is just getting aired out solely so it can be laughed at by others by this point, rather than for a genuine push for change or something. And again, I was one of the users criticizing Fire dom and I genuinely do want change, but I think right now everything that can be said has been said (unless some new terrible thing comes up haha), and anything else is just arguing for the sake of arguing and getting mad.
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(Anonymous) 2022-08-24 04:42 pm (UTC)(link)Definitely agree that there are likely going to be changes. I'm frustrated with Fire's Dom but I think they need a break after FF. Things will cool down and likely take place behind the scenes once more. If things get worse, some players might end up posting here again. For the most part, however, I think change will be handled in-flight.
I personally hope that things will change for the better. They might! I'm very hopeful for a good outcome from all of this.
Re: +1
(Anonymous) 2022-08-24 04:48 pm (UTC)(link)Stop. Leave this alone, go do something about your very real problems. The energy you and yours use to fight and argue is wasted here. The damage is done. There's a number of your folks that will be held accountable for things they shouldn't have said, even in "private". Just move on, let the peanut gallery chatter.
Fix your shit and stop fanning the flames on an anonymous drama comm.
Re: +1
(Anonymous) 2022-08-24 09:24 pm (UTC)(link)it sucks that it had to happen in such an embarrassing way, and i genuinely feel for embers who feel upset. i certainly felt mega shitty when lightning dom was torn to shreds last summer, cause it's something i've been participating in for a few years. if the drama blogs are causing you distress i recommend blocking or otherwise avoiding them, this will blow over in time when the fire leads listen.