what the fuck? dipping into dom funds for your literal biggest event of the year is a no brainer. its a celebration of your flight and also a great opportunity to flex/show off your community when all eyes are on you. them not wanting to spend anything on that is so baffling and as an OOFer i have 0 confidence in fire's ability to get their shit together if they actually want to conquest.
I know my flight does it because we're proud of our community. Also, it attracts players moving flights.
This stunt is driving away members of the flight, making people not want to join, and if fire plans a battle, I'll be supporting the other side.
Also... Considering the board right now, if I were fire, I would be sweating. The fact the Earth is still ahead of beastclans says a fair bit about exalt totals. They aren't guaranteed a win if they can't stay ahead of Earth's profit exalters that they didn't offer enough incentive to send dragons their way.
If a flight loses to Earth by accident, this is the perfect storm of things to make it happen.
earth won't beat them; the dom team is v aware of their reputation and will figure something out if earth is in danger of beating fire, like how they sent dragons to ice and plague before WvE to avoid going into the battle with fatigue.
many reasons, including it being a massive opportunity for flight pride, showing off your flights wealth, and giving back to the community.
think of it like a parade. if youre an organization that's going to have a parade, that you've known about all year, and you have a million dollar budget for... would you want to have it be people lazily walking through just because you're scheduled for a parade and want to pocket the $$$? or would you want to actually use your budget for big floats, musical performances, candy and necklaces to toss out, and similar excitement?
and which one gets the crowd excited? which one makes the crowd want to support or otherwise care about you?
All of that, but also, like, stepping back and not going for other flight's fests is, at the end of the day, not mandatory. Its a pretty organic development of a social tradition.
Its a GOOD tradition that is really cute and says good things for the generosity of the community in general, i think, and i love that we as a community decided to do it, but ultimately its somewhere between a social contract and a courtesy, and at the and of the day people like helping, but they DON'T like feeling taken advantage of, so seeing AA put in a fuckin' barrel bottom scraping show feels.... Eh. It's a bad scene.
its really interesting how in the last month there was discussion on SMR about festival dom stealing. the general opinion was that it would be fucked up for another flight to maliciously try to steal someones festival.
it says a lot about FR's community that nobody even considered that a dom team would try to take advantage of that festival courtesy.
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Re: Not ready for FF
(Anonymous) 2022-08-22 10:46 am (UTC)(link)Re: Not ready for FF
(Anonymous) 2022-08-22 10:05 pm (UTC)(link)Re: Not ready for FF
(Anonymous) 2022-08-22 11:02 pm (UTC)(link)This stunt is driving away members of the flight, making people not want to join, and if fire plans a battle, I'll be supporting the other side.
Also... Considering the board right now, if I were fire, I would be sweating. The fact the Earth is still ahead of beastclans says a fair bit about exalt totals. They aren't guaranteed a win if they can't stay ahead of Earth's profit exalters that they didn't offer enough incentive to send dragons their way.
If a flight loses to Earth by accident, this is the perfect storm of things to make it happen.
Re: Not ready for FF
(Anonymous) 2022-08-23 12:34 am (UTC)(link)Re: Not ready for FF
(Anonymous) 2022-08-22 11:21 pm (UTC)(link)think of it like a parade. if youre an organization that's going to have a parade, that you've known about all year, and you have a million dollar budget for... would you want to have it be people lazily walking through just because you're scheduled for a parade and want to pocket the $$$? or would you want to actually use your budget for big floats, musical performances, candy and necklaces to toss out, and similar excitement?
and which one gets the crowd excited? which one makes the crowd want to support or otherwise care about you?
Re: Not ready for FF
(Anonymous) 2022-08-22 11:45 pm (UTC)(link)Its a GOOD tradition that is really cute and says good things for the generosity of the community in general, i think, and i love that we as a community decided to do it, but ultimately its somewhere between a social contract and a courtesy, and at the and of the day people like helping, but they DON'T like feeling taken advantage of, so seeing AA put in a fuckin' barrel bottom scraping show feels.... Eh. It's a bad scene.
Re: Not ready for FF
(Anonymous) 2022-08-23 12:22 am (UTC)(link)its really interesting how in the last month there was discussion on SMR about festival dom stealing. the general opinion was that it would be fucked up for another flight to maliciously try to steal someones festival.
it says a lot about FR's community that nobody even considered that a dom team would try to take advantage of that festival courtesy.
Re: Not ready for FF
(Anonymous) 2022-08-23 12:46 am (UTC)(link)It really does.
Hell, it never really occured to ME, and iv'e been playing long enough to remember the site's 1st anniversary