The mistake here is thinking that people are interested in changing it. It would be nice if there was better moderation that made that forum a less toxic place, but most of us aren't mods, it's literally not our job to change it. The place isn't so important that it's worth some kind of campaign to change the culture there. It's not hypocrisy to just avoid it and occasionally talk among ourselves about how it's a soul-sucking place, so this "put up or shut up" deal is always odd to me.
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